Andi
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Post by Andi on Jun 19, 2004 12:35:05 GMT
Theory set ONE, from Andi
Question. How many D throws do you know? Answer. ONE
Question. How many Grips do you know (also known as Leumluath)? Answer. ONE
If you answered anything other than ONE for each question above, you are making things more difficult than you need be. If you don't want to admit to answering differently to the above, you will continue to make things difficult for yourself, unless it suddenly clicks, which is not guaranteed.
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pipermark84
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Post by pipermark84 on Apr 8, 2007 10:42:49 GMT
I know this thread is old hat (2 years almost), but you do hear people playing gripped throws on D, otherwise known as a heavy throw - grip to C, followed closely by the D. This, I suppose, is an old school way of a throw on D, but I wouldn't say either are wrong. Sometimes one throw fits a tune better than the other. Unless it's being said that, technically, you're playing a grip & it should be the only grip you know followed by D.... but I just thought it worthwhile mentioning there are two throws on D.
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Post by greginlondon on Apr 8, 2007 23:55:21 GMT
Yes, you're right of course, they sound different and have a different effect on the tune and you can have at least four throws on D. Yes you can get away with just one, but some of us really do like to make life difficult. And hear the difference.
It also helps to remember which tune is which as so many tunes start with the same bunch of notes.
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Post by pipermark84 on Apr 9, 2007 9:18:50 GMT
I feel a bit of a div now.....what's the other two throws?
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Post by greginlondon on Apr 10, 2007 19:03:43 GMT
Well David Glen in his book gave these four: But you could also have (a'dg)D as well as the (a'dc)D. These two, it was pointed out to me many years ago, you will never find in the same tune, so I would say they are a difference in style - (a'dc)D being a fife or whistle style embellishment, whereas the (a'dg)D only works on the pipes. Some of the others it might be pushing it a bit to call them throws, but I suppose it's a matter of opinion: for example, although I prefer it as (a'dedg)D rather tha (a'dedc)D as I think it brings out the strength of the rhythm. I probably do make my life more difficult, but I am interested the way pipe music used to be played, rather than just the most 'modern' way, especially if it might have an impact on dance rhythm.
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Post by pipermark84 on Apr 10, 2007 19:10:50 GMT
Like I always, a new thing every day!! Most impressed with your knowledge, Greg!!!
Cheers
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Post by mrzdavid on Apr 10, 2007 20:17:23 GMT
Thanks Greg, never seen that first version before. Informative as usual
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