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Post by piperlady on Apr 12, 2006 6:36:14 GMT
The doubling that I am asking about is in Castle Dangerous, Murdo's Wedding and Kilworth Hills. It comes before a low A - the grace notes are low G, B, low G - then the low A note. It is generally at the end of a part. Does anyone know the name of this doubling? I can't find it in any of the tutor books and in 29 years of piping I don't remember anyone referring to it as anything other than the "doodalie thing."
TIA, Piperlady Denise
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tcheuchterloon
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Post by tcheuchterloon on Apr 12, 2006 8:03:02 GMT
Sounds like the grip, (aka leumluath), from D to low A. The grip to low A from any other note goes low G, D, low G - then the low A note, but from D itself a B grace note is substituted for the D gracenote. D has it's own rules for grips, taorluaths and crunluaths
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Post by cullen on Apr 12, 2006 12:44:20 GMT
I use the Sandy Jones' tutor and it is covered as explained by tcheuchterloon above. However, in Kilworth Hills I think it comes after a 'c' doubling. Maybe it's like i before e, except after c? Or a,e,i,o,u and sometimes y? Crazy rules.
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Post by mrzdavid on Apr 12, 2006 17:05:28 GMT
I'd call it a 'b grip'. Like your normal grip but with a B gracenote in place of the regular D gracenote. It probably has a fancy name I can't pronounce too. I play them in Lochanside too.
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Post by tcheuchterloon on Apr 12, 2006 17:31:00 GMT
Aye, it's in Lochanside all right, going down from a D. I'm a bit stumped by the movement coming from C in Kilworth Hills though. It's set that way in the Scots Guards book, it might be an error, which the SG books are notorious for, but I have to admit it sounds not bad, and preferable to me than the alternative, a birl from C, which is a movement that scunners me. I'll just have to say Kilworth Hills was written by the mighty G.S. McLennan, if that's how he wanted it played, that's how I'll play it.
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Post by piperlady on Apr 12, 2006 17:40:07 GMT
Hey, thanks guys! I checked my Sandy Jones tutor and, yep, there it is. He says that the grip from D is always played with a B. At the end of the grip lesson, he shows the B grip on low A after a D and after a C - he says "the following two GRIPS are often used." College of Piping and Bill Cleary have only the regular grip.
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Post by mrzdavid on Apr 12, 2006 17:51:21 GMT
One of these? I'd call it a B grip. Kilworth hills does sound better for it. My band tends to just play a low G strike coz it's easier. Doesn't sound as good though.
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Post by tcheuchterloon on Apr 13, 2006 10:22:21 GMT
Well, you live and learn, I always thought it applied to a grip off of the D only. Works on C too, in certain situations. What an instrument!!
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Post by Highlander / Drum Sgt & Piper on Aug 16, 2006 9:38:10 GMT
It's called a Rodin
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Post by mrzdavid on Aug 26, 2006 17:35:54 GMT
I reckon I could pronounce that.
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Post by FINN on Oct 15, 2006 22:03:45 GMT
I've always know them as "Bubbilies" theres a couple differnet kinds, like in susie mccloud(sp?)
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Post by Ash on Oct 17, 2006 9:00:51 GMT
Yeah me too. Nice to know the right name though
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Post by albannach on Oct 31, 2006 22:04:45 GMT
Well in piobaireachd it's called 'rodin' as it was mentioned before. And btw 'bubblie note' is another embellishment known as 'dorado' (yes, FINN, that thing in Susan MacLeod .
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Post by brik on Feb 19, 2007 23:37:49 GMT
In trying to learn I was reading through this post and so I started referencing the books I have, and found what a couple others above mention, I found a couple references of it being called a grip (Leumluath) which is normally "low g / D / low g" gracenotes except what I found said that the grip when being played from D should be "low g / B / low g" gracenotes.
I am glad I read through these posts, I missed reading about grips after a D being different than grips being played from other notes...
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Post by smokenpipes on Jun 29, 2007 3:23:17 GMT
Rodan is also mentioned th COP tutor 1, Besides the afformentioned tunes and a few of the later godzilla movies,who'da thunk Japanese Bagpipe culture would mix with sushi ? lol
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Post by smokenpipes on Jun 29, 2007 3:27:26 GMT
I've always know them as "Bubbilies" theres a couple differnet kinds, like in susie mccloud(sp?) Hmmm... Bubblies... sounds like wunerful Champagne Music a so Bobbi anda Sissey CAn a danca Fer YOu wa
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Post by rabh on Sept 10, 2008 12:44:06 GMT
I was taught it as a "Hubbabar", couse you could sing it as follows:
its a hubbabar
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